Feminism

[Tiberius]

Orange_Sherbert said:

I'm sorry, but Homosexuals are WAY more discriminated against! They can't even get married, for fucks sake!

I'm fairly apathetic to homosexuals' rights. It doesn't affect me and despite what the gay lobbies would want me to believe, I don't see them as a disenfranchised group like women, blacks, jews, etc.

That was very politically incorrect of me, I know. I'm not going to argue or defend my point there further because it's one where we won't agree on.

But in regards to who is more discriminated against, homosexual males, hetrosexual males, young women, old women.... I was thinking today that maybe it's a silly question to begin with. Everyone and every group faces discrimination. I don't like affirmative action because it often implies that there's a superior group (i.e. white anglo saxon males). There really isn't a superior group, and the grass isn't greener on the other side.


-my two cents-

[Kristy]

i didnt think you saw women as disenfranchised? and can i just ask a question, is it that you wont defend your arguement anymore becasue really you have no defense? most of your arguments seem to fall apart usualy anyway. your statement about homosexuals not being disenfranchised is totally incorrect. which is probably why you wont defend it?

[Tiberius]

Let me clarify then; I'm not entirely convinced that homosexuality is something you're "born with". Whereas, your race and gender are. So it does bug me how in the past women and black people were legally disenfranchised, and for example, denied the right to vote. Denying homosexuals the right to be married to each other doesn't annoy me really. The marriage law was initially defined in regards to hetrosexuals and I don't see the need for a change.

Having said that though, I do think it's wrong for homosexuals to be denied employment or shunned as outcasts because of their lifestyle. What happened to that Matthew Shepard kid in America a few years back was horrible!

[TheAstronaut]

thanks for ur comment kristy

i think its more or less because they dont get any attention towards rights...sometimes women demand they arent getting fair rights and gte them, but when guys do, they usually dont get anything

but thats just my opinion.

i suggest a public debate.