ClaYt
beautiful shark
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Post by ClaYt on Jul 20, 2004 21:42:39 GMT 10
Hey all I need help if anyone can advise me. Im going to start bootlegging gigs of all type but Im so confused after trying to figure out how Sony Mini-disc players work?  I borrowed one from a friend and it seems really complex just to record stuff through the mic. Then I tried out the software (sonic stage?) and it wont detect that the MD is connected to my USB and it has some really whacked up check-in-check-out system for getting stuff on and off the MD. I was so confused and lost and I guess what Im asking is if anyone has or does bootleg music through a mini-disc and how is the best way to go about it. Any advice on what is the best type of mini-disc recorder for BOOTLEGGING would be very much appreciated cause there are a lot around and I really would love to hear from anyone who bootlegs this way. Thanks heaps for any help. Regards ClaYt |
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Post by Damien on Jul 26, 2004 20:01:08 GMT 10
Geez mate you have just stepped into a minefield!
I'll try to keep it short and sweet-
Point 1.
Sony Net MD's are by and large pieces of shit
(trust me- ive had grief with mine from day 1.)
Point 2.
I can pretty much guarantee you are running windows XP right? Cause it seems that the "Urecognised Device" error is a common problem (which i have also) with people running XP- which is really helpful considering most people nowadays use it!
BUT what is even more helpful is the fact that sony refuse to admit that there is a problem!
My advice is copy down the error message you get when u try to plug the MD up to the usb- and put that into google or something and you should get more of an idea of the situation.....
Sorry i cant offer a solution- cause like i said, i have the same problem myself!
Oh and dont bother trying to use that Sonic Staqe software- by far and away the WORST designed and most confusing software i have ever come across!!
My advice- get "Real Player One" (free off the net) and download a Portable Player patch with it- and it is much easier to use.
there are heaps of Mini Disk sites around with beginner tutorials and soforth
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Troy Dann
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Post by Troy Dann on Jul 26, 2004 20:16:09 GMT 10
i agree with everything but the Real One Player
it has been reviewed to be on of the worst, most intrusive programs ever made. when installed it continues to override file associations you have set to other programs, and more annoying shit.
i know it seems hollow that i can't offer an alternative but dont get real one player... maybe windows media player? it's pretty decent considering windows' quality in other things
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Post by Damien on Aug 7, 2004 11:36:49 GMT 10
yeah i know real player is shit- but with a sony MD its the only alternative to USB transfer other than that god awful Sonic Stage software.... seriously ive used a fair few programs in my lifetime- and this is the first one ive come across that after hours of trying to understand the logic behind its setup... ive gone "my god- its not that im stupid..... its this retarded software"
to say user unfriendly is a gross understatement
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Post by somethingforkaty on Aug 7, 2004 17:06:48 GMT 10
For Damien and anyone else who is interested, I've actually got 'demos'  of some REALLY good mixing, recording software. PM me if you want me to get you a copy. |
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Post by Not Anarchitect on Aug 9, 2004 17:09:16 GMT 10
Is Sonic Stage essentially the same set-up as OpenMG Jukebox? I got that with my Sony MD (MZN-505) and it's the worst piece of 'software' I have ever used. Unnecessarily compilcated, awkward interface, never does the job you want it to do... all that and the fact that the damn thing is more likely than not to drop out ('No Device Recognised') before you get to transfer anything over. Sorry, I'm not helping... just need to vent my frustrations.  |
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Troy Dann
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Post by Troy Dann on Aug 9, 2004 17:31:57 GMT 10
yeah it's just a newer, fu(c/n)ked up version. don't use it
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Post by Damien on Aug 9, 2004 18:45:45 GMT 10
Is Sonic Stage essentially the same set-up as OpenMG Jukebox? I got that with my Sony MD (MZN-505) and it's the worst piece of 'software' I have ever used. Unnecessarily compilcated, awkward interface, never does the job you want it to do... all that and the fact that the damn thing is more likely than not to drop out ('No Device Recognised') before you get to transfer anything over. Sorry, I'm not helping... just need to vent my frustrations. yep sure is! and i join you in your complete frustration! and the fact is that sony refuse to recognise that there is MAJOR problems with the netmd's. i sent an email to them about the no recognised device error... and i couldnt help but laugh at there possible solution to my problem: reformat your computer so naturally i sent them the following reply: G_T F_CK_D!!! would you like to buy a vowel? ;D ive given up trying to get the USB transfer to work- i just go the old school method that served me well with my first model MD before this netMD crap. bootleg gig=> attach MD to computer via line in on soundcard=> push play and record with Goldwave=> come back in 2 hours!  i hope HiMD will be a big improvement- but i aint buying one.... sony can kiss my ass.  oops... who are sfk signed too again? ;D |
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Post by Stephen on Aug 9, 2004 19:37:46 GMT 10
Hey there, long time lurker, first time poster...etc. etc.
I've got a net MD and I've never had a problem with it. It's my second outing into the world of portable MD players (my stereo also has MD functionality).
I've got a MZ-N10, which I use in conjunction with Real One to put stuff on it. Taking stuff off has to be done in analogue though, so I use Adobe Audition for that (formerly Cool Edit Pro).
My mic is the Sony ECM-DS70P (Awesome little stereo mic, highly recommended).
The cool thing about the MZ-N10 is it has two recording levels preset, the lower is perfect for live shows. With my last MD player you had to set the level yourself, which usually left you with either distorted shows, or really quiet shows.
So yeah, that's my story. This is a topic pretty close to my heart...
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Post by underdood on Oct 7, 2004 11:01:04 GMT 10
just a note about recording shows via digital means (ie. minidisc)... it's ALWAYS better to record at a lower volume, because you can always normalize this or up the volume later on to fix the sound, but if you get a distorted recording because it is too loud, there's absolutely nothing you can do to fix this... playing a distorted recording quietly is still going to be distorted...  one of the limitations of digital recording.. also, if you are going to record a show via a mic in the audience, you've probably got to try and stay away from noisy folk, or else they'll end up all over your otherwise clear recording... remember that potentially the best sound in the room is right next to the mixing desk, because they're the ones who are getting the perfect sound from that spot.. so use that to your advantage... the list goes on and on.. but that's just a start... |
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of some REALLY good mixing, recording software.
one of the limitations of digital recording..