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Post by dirtgirl on Apr 27, 2002 13:26:25 GMT 10
Rispose in pace Layne Staley & Lisa Lopez Core by Layne Staley
Self imprisonment I suppose somewhere inside me I yearn for freedom from That which holds me stagnant Overexaggeration turns underestimated Emotion..... Emotion. Why the urgency to hide and Slow the flow of that which could, And perhaps will, improve, and Heal the burning inside? I am protecting my pain It is mine And I so badly want to keep my Pain to myself But, in doing so I am hurting So many who cross me, or care for me, Aching for love and acceptance, Only to throw you down in the latter Of our shared love Yet anger and guilt not shared Between me and you You are blamed for all that is a Mystery within myself....burning Oh, I pray that I might someday Throw a blanket over that angry child If the strength is found within the Core of my being His tears soak my heart and Weight it down I am drowning, and I am tired, And so very, very lonely I am.
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Post by somethingforkaty on Apr 27, 2002 19:15:35 GMT 10
yes indeed [well Layne anyway... who the hell is Lisa Lopez ] I was confused when i heard the news because some people told me it was Layne, and others said it was Jerry Cantrell How substantiated are these rumours? I know someone milked his drug addiction to cause a death scare once before... If they are true he will be sorely missed...
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Post by singingcirclesaway on Apr 27, 2002 21:43:21 GMT 10
lisa 'left-eye' lopez. the one from TLC. apparently she was driving a van with 6/8 others in it, was speeding and another car came along and she had to swerve off the road. died instantly.
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Post by dirtgirl on Apr 27, 2002 23:33:47 GMT 10
Layne's death has sadly been confirmed. Check google for the mass of news articles etc.. The world is definitely a poorer place without that angel...
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Post by Captain BJ on Apr 28, 2002 20:42:11 GMT 10
Layne Stanley? Who's she?
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Post by dirtgirl on Apr 29, 2002 18:50:09 GMT 10
Thats more like who is he? layne was the lead singer of a band called Alice in Chains... a marvelous poet who fully understood the exquisite pain of life...
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Post by Captain BJ on May 2, 2002 19:19:47 GMT 10
Sorry I don't usually think of guys as angels...
I knew the lead singer of Alice In Chains died... I just didn't know his name. Now I do.
I honestly wonder what the fuck is with some people. Not to speak ill of the dead or to diss the musical talent, but I don't mourn those who overdose. What a fucking stupid way to go. I do feel sorry for those who have lost him though.
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Post by somethingforkaty on May 2, 2002 19:56:29 GMT 10
im a non-smoker so i wouldnt know but considering the rough time people go through giving up smoking i think someone like him would have a really bloody hard time trying to quit from a drug which is much more addictive. His main problem probably was that he had the money to buy the shit, and i guess the connections. It would have been pretty easy for him to get hold of.
The only mistake you can blame him for is starting in the first place.
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Post by Captain BJ on May 2, 2002 20:27:31 GMT 10
However, it wasn't the addiction, it was the overdose.
People don't die from too many cigarettes (in one sitting)
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Post by Glen on May 2, 2002 20:48:41 GMT 10
I agree with you Evan. It's not sad as much as it's frustrating.
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Post by dirtgirl on May 2, 2002 22:03:53 GMT 10
yeah I agree it's a waste. But people who may be ultrasensitive to life's ills or whatever, often need a little pain relief and sometimes panadol just won't cut it...
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Post by spongeboy on May 3, 2002 12:04:51 GMT 10
i know its complicated (isn't everything...), but it could be a suicide, rather than a straight out accidental overdose. And if it is accidental, thats the risk people take with drugs, and one of the main reasons that drugs are illegal.
It sounds like Layne had been having a hard time recently, with Jerry Cantrell's sucess pretty much killing alice in chains.....
whatever. life goes on. for some.
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Post by somethingforkaty on May 3, 2002 14:18:30 GMT 10
"However, it wasn't the addiction, it was the overdose. People don't die from too many cigarettes (in one sitting)"
Yeah but i think its safe to say overdose is pretty much inevitable when your taking hardcore drugs. The addition lengthens the amount of time you take the drugs, increasing the risk of an overdose.
I was reading somewhere once something about OD's and it was saying that when people take drugs, your body gets used to you taking them @ say in your bathroom. So your heart rate slows down etc before you take them to prepare for the hit. So then when the same person takes the same amount of drugs they always have @ say a local park, the body hasnt been conditioned to that and doesnt prepare itself... hence that can cause an overdose.
The point about suicide is interesting... but unless he left a note or something i guess noone will ever know.
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Post by dirtgirl on May 3, 2002 14:57:40 GMT 10
The not knowing is the painful part for those left behind. It's the same for any suicide I guess. It's the ultimate selfish act, but at the same time one can completely understand the complete nihilistic sense of the act - the sense of shear dispair- where the pain is so great that any sense of perspective of the bigger picture is lost and therefore only one solution presents itself - at that moment.
The irony of this is though that the pain is only ever temporary...In the grand scheme of the universe, for every moment of utter dispair there is an equal moment of complete bliss. It's about yin and yan, entopy, physical laws, perspective and finally equilibrium...
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Post by Captain BJ on May 4, 2002 15:03:54 GMT 10
With suicide, on one hand I think it's incredibly selfish and I would never do it myself.
On the other hand, you have to feel sorry in that there has to be somethign that has thm so depressed that their loved ones can't help them and they absolutely see no possibly way out.
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