Dreams

[streetlights]

I wonder if I've already said something in this thread?
Oh well, more misplaced wisdom from I. Or not.

Dreams, I've been having dreams, well i think i have, that are very real and simple, I can't tell if they are dreams or not. Just things like dropping a pen and not picking it up. So I wake up and go looking for the pen and it gets me so confused as if I'm not confused enough!?
Maybe they'll go as quick as they came.

Nicole.

[natty]

Actually Deane if ever you visit a dream therapist they quite often begin with the narrative stuff you're talking about ie what meaning you got from that dream. Sometimes they'll start with the most predominant feeling that arose in you from having that dream, other times they'll just ask you to think about what in your life could be being represented by different parts of your dream.

Veeeeerrrrrryyy interesting topic!

[TheAstronaut]

I believe that in dreams, I can being explained something that my eyes cannot see during the day time. My dreams, sometimes just randomly stupid, also seem to have strange connexions and relevances.

I experience things in dreams that actually happen later in real life. There are places in my dreams that I've been to, and others that exist in this world but I haven't found them yet.

There are strange links in my dreams - people, places, but its all like a story, and I'm am being narrated through it. It could be some sort of message being relayed to me through sleep.

I've know for a long time now that my dreams aren't just cute pictures or symbols.

[natty]

yeah astronaut i get that a lot too!!

for example, i had a dream that my best friend and i went to get gelato and then walked out into a ski field........last night (a week or more after the dream) i saw this girl, we ate gelato, and then she asked me something about skiing and i freaked!! When i told her my dream she freaked too!!!

happens a lot to me - coincidence or something else?

[back2u]

Apart from the dreams i used to have as a kid this is probably the freakiest one that still stciks with me today.

I had it 2 and a 1/2 years ago but it seems it still hasn't come to fruition. Maybe it's a past life but anyway I'll tell it and then go from there...


Ok so first wierd thing I'm not me, I'm a woman, I know this because I have a dress on, long dark hair and I can feel the weight of breasts on my chest, also I'm shorter than I am, well my perceptions are at a lower view point, and every so often I catch a pale glimmer of reflection in glass so yeah definately not me.
Anyway so I'm on a Plane I'm sitting about central to the plane, aisle seat, right hand side, sort of daydreaming out the window staring at clouds, there is a guy with a Brown/gray suit, I don't really look at his face just see the suit in my periferals.
Suddenly I feel this huge jolt (like if you've ever been on one of those roller coasters that lets you go upside down, when the ride stops only this was probably 10 fold that. Then all I do is feel burning on my arms everywhere else is kind of hot but it's my arms that really burn, so much so I can't move one for the other even though my head wants to put one over the other and put out the fire the pain paralyses both arms. Then it just sort of stops and al of a sudden I'm still there in the plane but it's like it's full of water I'm still observing everyhing but I'm anchored in there to my chair. Breathing is not a worry or even a thought, in fact i don't think I am breathing any more. I'm just kind of staring at a serenely dancing beam of light streaming in through the roof of the plane, about four rows in front of me.
End Dream


Initially I was confused but then the girl I was in love with told me she was going to england, and I freaked at the time thinking it may be prophetic, but didn't want to tell her because I thought that would be psycho. It wasn't prophetic, that Girl has been to england and come back and nothing happened.

Shortly after S11 happened, and I thought hmm maybe I was one of the passengers on the flights, no none of the planes crashed into water.

So now I am lending to beliefs that this could possibly be a past life. Very very strange

[natty]

ugghh that's a creepy dream especially cos it's got such a kinaesthetic/tactile dimension to it

[Hazy Recollections]

I think i'll share my most distrubing dream right here because no one will ever tell me what it means and they just kind of look at me like i'm a freak. Anyway so it's a bit wierd, there's my warning.

Ok so I'm in a white room, no doors and no windows. I'm wearing white as well. ANYWAY I come in on this dream like a movie at the beginning, like I'm watching what's going on. Anyway so i realise that i'm crying and screaming and babbling about something or other. Then i'm suddenly me again and not watching from the outside. Turns out that i'm in a headlock sort of thing with a machette to my throat. And i'm crying and saying "i'm sorry i didn't mean it, i'm sorry" a lot. So then the other person says "i dont care you have to die now" and i realise that it's my older brother. anyway, long story short, that part goes on for a while. Then he slits my throat. And i can see blood shooting out everywhere, it's all over the walls which aren't white anymore, and my clothes are red. And i am trying to breathe buy my lungs are filling with blood or something i dont know but i can't breathe and then i feel myself die. And i wake up.

I've had that dreams a grand total of 10 times. Three of those times were in the same night. So sorry if i disturbed anyone with that one, but i tend to have a lot of wierd dreams like that.

[natty]

aybe what you can do is start off by looking at the main feeling from that dream eg suffocation, fear, pain. Then look at how this translates to your life eg if you felt suffocated then is there something that you feel is restricting you in some way? And what's your relationship like with your brother (your killer)?

[back2u]

Katherine I've had wierder *see above*

Ok here is what I think the dream is about, your brother is becoming too involved in your life so much so that you feel he is overshadowing your purity symbolised by the white. The reason why you are seeing it from another POV is because you have actually detached yourself from it but you go through the process of re entering your body to experience what is happening in a symbolistic manner, he attacks/restrains you and bleeds you, blood symbolically means the essence of you, and you end up suffocating yourself.

Basically you have alot of issues with this brother, or possibly all of your brothers manifest into the oldest.
It's alot easier to work through dreams in person so if you want to talk about it at homebake that's cool.

[Tiberius]

Natty said:

happens a lot to me - coincidence or something else?

Something else for sure. Like I said in this thread previously, I can't believe that my dreams are just random images when everything about them makes me think otherwise.

Friends said:

So now I am lending to beliefs that this could possibly be a past life. Very very strange

I think it's more likely to be what you first thought it was - a vision. Could be of someone you know, of someone you knew, of someone you will know, or of someone you don't know at all.

Or... could be a metaphor, like you interpreted Katherine's dream. Hard to say for now.

[Hazy Recollections]

Thanks for your ideas and help with this one. I'm not partial to dieing, even in my dreams so that one kind of freaks me out every time i have it, or it's variants.

natty said:

aybe what you can do is start off by looking at the main feeling from that dream eg suffocation, fear, pain. Then look at how this translates to your life eg if you felt suffocated then is there something that you feel is restricting you in some way? And what's your relationship like with your brother (your killer)?

The funny thing is that i dont think i have a problem with any of my brothers. Sure they may be a bit protective or whatever, but it's not like i'd ever listen to them. Well you know, if they were being restrictive or something. I'm not close to them but they're pretty good as far as people go. They just aren't involved in my life at all, so i guess that rules that theory out. I'm not sure why he was in it at all. maybe he was just a good a person as any ?? He hasn't featured in any of my other dieing dreams. Anyway, enough about me, thanks for your opinions/ pov's guys.

[TheAstronaut]

Does anybody here believe those books that claim elements in a dream mean a certain thing? Like (a random example ive made up)

Running down a beach:
You are not doing the right thing for society - take a long walk off a short pier.

I dont think a dream sequence can be classified or decided, because everybody's perceptions and visualisations are different and unique.

[Tiberius]

The said:

I dont think a dream sequence can be classified or decided, because everybody's perceptions and visualisations are different and unique.

I agree to an extent. I think it is possible to interpret dreams, but they're of such a personal and often symbolic nature that I don't think you can rely purely on a dream symbols book to explain it for you. What one thing symbolizes to you might be different from what it symbolizes to me.

[Tiberius]

I had one of those very vivid dreams this morning. It was of the Say Something convention. I went to it with a girl whose face as usual I can’t remember, and pretty much everyone I’ve ever met from this board was at it. Kieran, Justin, Lou, Ollie, Luce, Pete, Amy, Pepe, Deane, Mel, Elisha, Amanda, Amy, Sophie, Su, Tim, Matt, Jarrod, Nat, Narelle, Steph, Maryanne, Collette, Darrell, Nicole, Jackie, James, Sarah, Carla, Heather and more... you were all there. We were gathered in some community hall place. It wasn’t a new building, but it was clean. It was late at night. There were aisles of seats and we all found our seats and started chatting. Then a guy from my work came in and started to introduce the movies that we were going to watch. He’s middle aged, has curly hair, and looks a bit geekish. He then told us that we’d be watching all ten star trek movies in a row. Justin told us that this was “a cinematic experience”. Then after a bit more talking among us all… I woke up.

It was a very vivid dream. I can pretty much remember clearly the layout and design of the room and who was sitting where.

[reykjavik]

Tiberius said:

I agree to an extent. I think it is possible to interpret dreams, but they're of such a personal and often symbolic nature that I don't think you can rely purely on a dream symbols book to explain it for you. What one thing symbolizes to you might be different from what it symbolizes to me.

Its also a case (for me at least) that my dreams I sometimes cannot physically describe because its not something I can relate to in words, because its only a split second image - but something can spark it off in it's entirity, and for that split second, I can remember every detail. But I return to reality and its fragmented unfortunately, and only small bits remain in my reach.

See, the thing is, I have had dreams since my very young years that have come back to me - touch, taste, smell or sight have reprovoked them. I experience deja vu plenty in this manner, the most recent at work was only yesterday when I was talking on the phone, at that precise moment, on that exact angle, I suddenly feel strange, like a whole episode has just flashed before my eyes. I've had a few different theories of my own dreams;

(a) My mind has a barrier within it - beyond that barrier is the answer to the majority of my dreams, or where they may be stored, because I have had dreams repeat in complex entirities.

(b) My dreams are actually reflections of past/future events.

(c) Dreams are my subconcious connection with reality - There are moments when things collide or meet in my life, with complete unexpectancy, and have most times, been linked to dreams.

(d) My Dreams are simply telling me a story that will slowly unfold for me in the future.

(e) Further to that, and as bizarre as it is (i've had this theory for as long as I can remember), My dreams are linking together my life before it ends. In other words, the connections are growing stronger because they will all make sense when I decease.