Dreams

[Tiberius]

Which dream was that? Wait, don't answer that here. Speak to you about it on MSN or IRC when I'm next on.

[reykjavik]

Then come online now and let's have a conversation! ;D

[Tiberius]

Nah, can't. Need to head off now and do stuff.
But, next time yup.

[loux2]

i had a dream and andre from outcast was in it.
weird. cause i rarely have dreams about famous people, especially those i would never give a second thought (like him). We were talking about his in a group and then he suddenly appeared and we were all saying hi and thinking nothing of it. weird.


oh and mark, some of that dream (the school one) relates to your feelings in the classroom when you did teaching i reckon. or something.
i dunno about dr who..hehe.

[A Single Minute]

Anyone had REALLY realstic dreams of your own death? I had one where I was in a car accident... We were driving along then driver lost control ran up an embankment. The car flipped (at this point the dream went into slow motion) and started to slide along the road flipping and twisting. When it stopped i swear i could actually feel the blood pulsing out of my throat and myself slowly die. Scared the shit outta me when I woke up.

[loux2]

That sounds awful
Death usually means that it's the end of a cycle; something is finally over.
A road usually means achievement of something, direction, ask yourself about your life's path.

(these taken from http://www.freakydreams.com)

so i dunno.

then i found this on death:
Does not signify death. Means to remove or be removed from a situation, emotions or circumstances. May or may not involve the dead person.
from www.newagedirectory.com/dream/dictionary.htm

[Tiberius]

I've died in my dreams before. It's interesting because I usually know on some level while dreaming that I'm not really going to die. So it's like Uncle Fester in the first Adams Family movie trying to kill himself and being unable to actually die.

[reykjavik]

Because standard mental and real physics are practically obsolete, it is interesting because I've been caught in circumstances which death was probable - yet it didnt happen.

That and one time (and its reoccured a few times) life has a 'console' like in a computer game which I can mentally activiate and use to manipulate.

I think I spent too much time using Half-Life's console whislt building some levels in my geek-days. Oh well, I miss those days actually.

[gone]

I've probably already mentioned this once before, but anyway...

Back in 2002, I had a dream that I was in the city with a couple of friends. We were at some traffic lights, waiting for them to turn green, when one of the people with me- my friend Laura, walked out onto the road... and got run over by a car.

A few weeks later, (in real life ) I was talking to Laura on the phone. It was the school holidays and we were catching up. She told me that she'd been into the city, and while at a set of traffic lights a woman stepped right out and got knocked down by a car....

At this time some people were a little wary of me, and thought I was some kind of freak psychic, because of the above events and because of some other....

Like the time in Food Technology, when I was sitting at my desk doing theory work because I'd forgotten my practical gear. The other students were cooking away, and one of my friends Jodie came over to say hello... suddenly, I looked over at one groups oven and said "It's burning" I don't know why I said it, I didn't even think about it... it just came out.

Jodie then said "What are you talking about Collette? Their food is fine!"

And then at that very moment, the food in their oven went up in flames... (which was amusing because I've never seen that happen before)

And there's also the time when my friend Mat broke his arm. I was sitting there drawing and just watching what I was doing, then I suddenly looked up quickly at Mat, and my mind went completely blank, and that very second he fell over and broke his arm.

I know these are all just coincidences... but it's still really weird when you feel somethings about to happen- and then suddenly it does.

Anyway, back to dreams. I read in my favourite artist, Jeffrey Smart's memoir about a dream he once had.

He'd been at a party, it was late and he was driving home in his car with his cousin. They'd both been drinking, and were not entirely alert. Suddenly a cyclist came out of nowhere and Jeffrey hit him.

When Jeffrey woke up, he was convinced the dream was real. For quite some time he sat thinking about what he'd done and why he hadn't gone to the police and what will happen to him... he went to check the car though and realised it was cold. Then he rememebered he'd been home painting all night... he didn't go out at all! It was just a dream.

A few years later, Jeffrey had been at a party with his cousin. They were driving home together, drunk and not paying much attention. Suddenly a cyclist came out of nowhere, and Jeffrey had a strange feeling of deja vu. It was the same street as in the dream, he was with the same person, under the same circumstances, in the same clothes! Within an instant he swirved and just missed the cyclist.

Jeffrey Smart read a book by J.W. Dunne 'An Experiment With Time' and Dunne said that he thought dreams were 'memories of the future' Not predictions, but memories... memories of what was to come. Must read that book.

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Taken from www.texaschapbookpress.com/magellanslog3/dunne.htm

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J.W. Dunne (1875-1949) was a British aviation pioneer. As an engineer trained in the classical pragmatism of the end of the 19th century, he held a number of early British aeronautical patents. He was a successful, respected engineer with a comfortable income.

There was only one problem: He occasionally would have prescient dreams about major disasters. A few days later he would open the paper, and there would be a report about the disaster he had dreamed.

As a good pragmatist, he set out to use the scientific method he had been trained in to try to figure out what was going on. His first subject of study was himself. (Later, he involved a few family members and acquaintances.) He began keeping a dream diary. After overcoming the common difficulties encountered when trying to remember dreams, he learned to maintain a highly detailed summary of each night's dream experiences.

Next step: He began to examine the recorded dreams for evidence of future events, not just disasters or other major occurrences, but of any magnitude. And he went a step further. He at the same time compiled a list of past events in the same dreams.

After several months, he made a startling discovery (which was confirmed as time passed and the observation and analysis of his dreams stretched into years). He found that his dreams contained approximately the same number of past and future events.

From this, he began to think about time, and our experience of time.

Next conclusion: He came to believe, based on this research, that in sleep we escape the linear, one-directional time which we think of as reality while awake. He compared time to a piano keyboard. When we're awake, we're sitting at the keyboard striking one note at a time, in sequence, from left to right. We cannot normally strike keys to the left ("the past") of the one in front of us, nor keys to the right ("the future"). But when we sleep, we are freed from the rigorous linearity.

He concluded that in dreams we are in effect banging around on the keyboard, hence the willy-nilly combination of elements and time events. One implication here, of course, is that we are primitive and untutored creatures when we enter the world of dreams, and perhaps a next cultural advance may consist of learning a new mode of existence in that world.

All this is recounted in his first book, An Experiment with Time (1927). (Several other books followed as he continued his work.) The book is, incredibly, out-of-print.
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If any of this interests you guys, this makes for good reading- www.iglou.com/members/emonk/dreams/puzzle.htm

[Hazy Recollections]

A said:

Anyone had REALLY realstic dreams of your own death?

Yes and yeah I know it's awful. Especially if you can feel the blood spurting out of you, your lungs failing and then you die. I don't wish those dreams on anyone, they shake you up for a while.

[amelia]

i had a really realistic dream of not me dying, but me killing. it was worse. so so so so disturbing. awful.

[Tiberius]

Collette, that’s really interesting. I want to read that book now. I’d agree with J.W. Dunne’s theory too.

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I had an odd dream last night.

I was in some castle or palace. It was dimly lit with the only lighting coming from burning torches along the walls. Looked very elegant and majestic. I was with two other people. Some guy, and some girl. Not really sure who they were. At times I thought I knew them, but then they slipped back into non-descript people I didn’t know. They were both about my age roughly. We were breaking into the castle. We came to the end of a hallway where the royals or nobility sat. The floor of the end of the hallway towards the throne room steeped down slightly like a ramp. At the bottom of this was a small channel of water about a metre in width. It went under the wall on the left and right sides and must’ve flowed all around the castle. There was a sign near the water channel that said “a hop and a skip to cross”. The floor was raised slightly on either side of the water channel, but not too high to make it impossible to jump over. The throne room was completely enclosed with the only entrance or exit being the water channel. In the throne room were a few noble looking people. The guy with us decided we had to kill them. I decided not to, and so did the girl. So he jumped in and killed them quickly. Then one of the palace guards managed to give the girl some drug and she collapsed onto the floor. She was alive, but not conscious. I picked her up and carried her out of the palace through the secret entrance behind the curtain in the hallway. The guy followed and we jumped in a green jeep and drove out of the carpark which was outside the castle. The girl then recovered and opened her eyes. End of dream.

[reykjavik]

I don't get how a jeep came into this.

[Marduk]

I know I am weird XD but meh, this will be the last time I fall asleep while listening to Something for Kate's cds!

I dreamed that Mr. Dempsey announcing a special consert, which will take in a place in the pool - so everybody please bring a swimsuit or be prepared to get wet (just WTF )

Anyways, my sweetie came with me since I were pretty new to Melbourne - and lo and behold people from this forum were all there <__< I've seen Fathershark, Mr. Mark, Loulou, Steph, Miss Katie, and Psalmesque.
<_<;; For some odd reason, Fathershark had this shark fin sticking out on the back of his head.

And naw, none of sfkers were in swimsuit =x