Paul's Jim Dyson Guitar (slightly off topic)

[Delirium]

I am seriously considering ordering a Jim Dyson "TV" model (the same that dempsey uses), and i want to know if there's anybody here who could give me a reason to do otherwise?

It's just all that i have telling me it's a good guitar is Paul's reccomendation... i suppose that could be enough, but yeah.

Anybody else have one?

[trev]

I'm assuming this is the same Dyson that is the dad of Mia Dyson who makes guitars, and if so, i have another good recomendation from the guitarist from Ruby's Grace, nick, he plays electric, slide, and lap steel, and he's been playing for over 8 years, and loves the Dyson guitars. ;D

[twentysomething]

try:

www.jimdysonguitars.com.au

Yes he is the father of Mia.

Jarrod (aka Jurds) has played one or 2 of these, he will probably post some info when he gets the chance.

Cheers
Matt

[SPDC]

I've heardn nothing but good things about Dyson's guitars. You're looking at about $1800 or so for a TV, a bit cheaper than the Highway 1 model of Fender Tele. They're also hollow bodied (unlike Strats, Teles, LPs etc) which makes them very light. The pickups are single-coil but are dipped in wax to remove the hum (which is what I hate about single coils). I was actually thinking of replacing the pickups in my Tele with Dysons.

That's about all I know at the moment.

[Jurds]

Hello there,

Yes I have played a dyson guitar, the Junior model. If you live anywhere in gosford area there is/was one there at gosford music (plus a lovely selection of Belman guitars-another aussie brand who make fantastic guitars)

I have been extremely interested in these guitars and plan to purchase one in the near future (junior model). I have heard nothing but great things about these guitars. The guitar I played sounded huge, probably due to their hollow body construction which is great for the nice open jangly chords. The also have a unique selector switch for the pickups giving you a great variety of sounds. I have also spoke with a guy who owns the TV model (he is really particular about his guitars) and said it was fantastic, particularly the neck and fret work. The also mentioned that the pickups were very full and open sounding caompared to the traditional tight sound from a telecaster.

These guitars are also all hand made from the ground up including the pickups. You can also customise your guitar using different woods, pickup configuration, colours, ect......

Sure you can find a cheaper alternative (I think they are about $1750) but there is no way you will find better value. You can contact Jim through his site Matt listed above as I have done and he is a great help and very quick to respond......one of the great advantages of going local.

The only dissadvantage that could arise is that the re-sale value would not be that of a say a gibson or fender, but you will get a better guitar than both companies can offer at that price range. You would be hard pressed getting a guitar with gibson on the headstock for under 2k let along something that is hand made to your requirements.

Anyway i think i have rambled enough! If you wanted one like Paul's ask Jim to put one of his soapbar pickups in the neck position for a fatter sound.

Hope this helps!

Hey Jim, can I have job???

[Delirium]

thanks alot guys *thumbs up*

So to get an exact replica of Paul's guitar i'll need to order a "soapbar" pickup?

[blake]

Jurds said:

I have been extremely interested in these guitars and plan to purchase one in the near future (junior model). I have heard nothing but great things about these guitars. The guitar I played sounded huge, probably due to their hollow body construction which is great for the nice open jangly chords. The also have a unique selector switch for the pickups giving you a great variety of sounds. I have also spoke with a guy who owns the TV model (he is really particular about his guitars) and said it was fantastic, particularly the neck and fret work. The also mentioned that the pickups were very full and open sounding caompared to the traditional tight sound from a telecaster.

The Dyson Guitars are great. I played one recently since moving to Melb.

I played the TV model and thought I'd give it a working over..........the results were surprising.

First, I plugged it through a Fender Twin. Think early-REM. Clean, waaaay clean. Very bright, almost sparkling.

Second, through a Vox AC30. That was best. Great when you crank it to 6 or 7 and the valves start pushing. The hollow body starts to resonate/vibrate and you get these great sympathetic overtones.

But, third, I thought I'd screw with it. Marshall JCM900 half stack-style. It was fun, but a lot of feedback. Lucky the pickups are of high quality or things could have gotten ugly.

One other option for you are the guitars from Cole Clark. Everything is made from Australian native hardwood, hand-wired pickups and a bit chaeper, too. The solid bodies the guy make are brilliant. So brilliant the guy is fighting lawsuits for trademark infringement! Both Fender & Gibson are after him. For about $1000 you can pick one up that will be a collectors item AND he does custom options as well.

[Jurds]

So to get an exact replica of Paul's guitar i'll need to order a "soapbar" pickup?

Yep that's correct. A soapbar in the neck position. The difference with the soapbar and the trad. style lipstick pickup is that it is fatter, bassier and grunty sounding. From what I understand Paul uses the neck pickup only on that guitar and possible a combo of the two but never the bridge alone which gives a much thinner, brittle twangy sound rather than the bassy, fat and articulate sound of the neck pickup.

Hey Blake, nice review there mate! I second the cole clark option. I have played a few of there tele copies and they were great and I hear awsome things about their Fat lady acoustic. Bit cheaper than the dyson too.

Cheers,
Jarrod

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Where'd you find the jim dyson, blake?

I cbf'd going to Torquay to check em out.

[boogs]

Also Jazza, any particular Belman guitars you tried and liked? I just found out they're a 10 minute drive from here ;D

[Jurds]

Hey Boogs how's things mate?!!?

I have played a couple of Belmans......2 albatross's and they are stunning guitars. I am hoping a Belman Albatross with p-90 pickups will be my next purchase!

The two I played were set up perfectly (for my taste) and they were extrmely comfortable to play and they sounded amzing, particularly the neck pick up. Unfortunately I only got to play it through a fender style amp which isnt really my taste but it sounded fantastic none the less. with a little luck may go out to play some this weekend and give one a wirl through a british style amp to get some grind out of it. I'll let you know how I go!

Not only are they reasonably affordable (compared to gibson etc) but they sound great and look even better.

hopefully I will have a better review on the weekend!

Cheers,
Jarrod

[boogs]

Ya don't use icq/msn anymore?


I've got me a Line 6 Flextone 2 amplifier (with official foot pedal, so no need for extra effects pedals). Digital, so its really versatile (throw any guitar at it, no problemo).

My main struggle in finding the guitar for me is a totally CLEAN and CRISP sound, and then on top of that, a totally awesome rock/metal sound. Any of these Belmans offer that?

[Delirium]

Wait... im really confused. Is the one he played at VHQ, was that the Jim Dyson guitar?

can i get a picture of his jim dyson? I always thought it was the creme one.

[twentysomething]

The creme/white one he uses is a Fender Telecaster.

I do remember PIP playing a black Jim Dyson guitar on the A Diversion dvd in the live at Channel V section.

From memory it has a red white and blue flag sticker on it (possibly Thailands flag? - i may be wrong though)

Regards
Matt

[Jurds]

I've got me a Line 6 Flextone 2 amplifier (with official foot pedal, so no need for extra effects pedals). Digital, so its really versatile (throw any guitar at it, no problemo).

My main struggle in finding the guitar for me is a totally CLEAN and CRISP sound, and then on top of that, a totally awesome rock/metal sound. Any of these Belmans offer that?

Hey james,
Unfortunately I havnt given the belmans a big work out so I cant really comment on that. But if you want a really awsome metal sound its depends on the amp and usually a nice set of active pickups rather than the passive ones. The beauty of buying locally is that you can get belman to throw the pickups in for you so the choice is yours. They had a great clean sound however.

Check out this link. Its a dude from the states reviewing a belman with a flextone II, nothing but good things said plus some other nice belman reviews/.

www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data4/Belman/

Re. Paul's dyson, its the black one in the Roll Credit film clip if that makes it any clearer. He also has a gold Junior and a copper standard from memory.

cheers,
Jarrod